Wednesday, February 7, 2007

Guilty: True or False?

OCD has been called the "doubting disease". In addition to obsessions and compulsions, many people with OCD struggle with doubting themselves, their actions, etc. This can lead to all sorts of frustration and false guilt. I wasn't diagnosed with OCD until I was 17. That finally shed some light on the "strange" phases I'd gone through as a child. Many of these phases involved false guilt. OCD can make you feel bad about things that aren't wrong at all.

I remember going through a time when I was in grade school/junior high where I would apologize for everything. EVERYTHING. I didn't want to "sin" or do anything wrong so I'd apologize after fights with my sister (even though I have a right to feel angry), or apologize for other little things I can't recall now. I'd have little "confession sessions" with my Mom (mostly my Mom at that time) where I'd tell her things and apologize or ask her if I needed to apologize. Tiny things I'd do--if I'd look at someone wrong, etc--made me feel guilty. Some apologies were for things others didn't even notice. It was irritating to my family, and the apologies weren't necessarily sincere. I think my sister even yelled at me for not being sincere a few times. But the apologies were something I felt I had to do to appease God, my conscience, etc.

Along with this, I also went through a period where I was afraid that I what I said might be a lie. Someone might ask me if I had a good day, for example. Then I'd labor over my answer. Did I have a good day? It wasn't the BEST day I'd ever had, but it wasn't the WORST, either. Could I classify that as "good"? In this phase, I'd answer questions like that with, "Maybe, maybe not." Of course, this gave absolutely no information to the questioner, but it was the only answer that covered all my bases. Maybe I had a good day, maybe I didn't. Of course, I'm sure this was irritating to my family as well (though they are saints and put up with me). It was also no picnic for me.

The latter compulsion/obsession is something I'm currently struggling with to some extent. Someone may ask me, so, did you see the movie "Pretty Woman"? Well, I have never sat down and watched the whole thing beginning to end. But I think I did see a few minutes of it one time on TNT or something. So I can't really say, "No, I've never seen it," because I have technically seen some of it. (I think it had something to do with a hot tub or something.) But I've never seen the majority of it. So I can't really say, "Yes, I've seen it," because that may imply that I've seen the whole thing. Even if I say, "I've seen parts of it," the questioner may proceed to ask, "Oh, what parts?" By that time, the conversation on this subject has lasted longer than the part of the movie I've seen, so really, we've both wasted 2 minutes of our lives that we can never get back.
(Note: Usually the laboring over answers happens when I talk to a friend or family member. With strangers or casual acquaintances, the pressure to say the exact truth isn't as high, so I don't have to stress out about it as much.)

Why do I have to labor over these things when other people don't? Well, that's the nature of OCD. I doubt whether I am being accurate, truthful, honest, etc. and this leads to feeling guilty for things that 'normal' people don't feel guilty for. Then that leads to frustration, anger at the OCD and at friends/family members. Sometimes I get so frustrated I just think, "Screw it. I'm going to answer this question, and I don't care if OCD tells me a lie." Other times, I get frustrated and obsess over it. It's the nature of the beast. And it's tiring. But it's OCD. What can you do.

I, for one, would suggest ditching "Pretty Woman" and put on some "Monty Python". I've seen that ALL the way through.


...Or have I? :)

10 comments:

Leila V. said...

lol. While I haven't been officially diagnosed with OCD, I'm pretty sure I'm a candidate. (I won't even tell you how many times I rewrote that sentence).

I have a thing with paperclips and diseases, I get a different one everyday, (diseases, not paperclips).

I really enjoyed your posts, especially The Letter of OCD Law! And for the record I saw Pretty Woman for the first time a couple weeks ago and it was horrible. You're not missing anything.

theocdblogger said...

Leila V. - Thank you! I hear you as far as re-writing sentences. I can't even recall how many times I go back needlessly and retype words or letters.

I'm glad you enjoyed my posts!

And thank you for the heads-up on the Pretty Woman movie. You have saved me much pain and suffering.

Andrew said...

Hi

I have Responsibility OCD and the guilt is crushing. My obsessions all revolve around whether I have injured/killed somebody and then not realized and left them to suffer. Naturally guilt follows :)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your post. I'm also a Christian who has suffered from similar obsessions- apologizing compulsively (and repeatedly) for tiny things, obsessing about telling the "exact" truth, etc. I think many Christians suffer from this and do not realize what it is.

theocdblogger said...

andrew - Thank you for sharing. I know that the guilt sucks, and I hope that you are able to make the best of it, if not be rid of it. Isn't it weird how the nicest people can be crushed by the worst guilt?

anonymous - Thank you also for sharing. You are probably right that many Christians suffer from OCD without realizing it. It would be interesting to see statistics of what percentage of OCD sufferers are also religious/spiritual.

John Weaver said...

I just wanted to let you guys know that I started a blog about evangelical Christianity and mental illness. It's entitled against biblical counseling, but I'm not anti-Christian, just against the Jay Adams model of therapy. Please check it out if you get the time, and leave a comment.

John Weaver

Lady Beth said...

Wow, you hit the nail right on the head. I have the same guilt concerning things other people don't entirely notice, as well as the same issue with the idea of telling the complete truth. It plagues me for days, even weeks at a time, but there is some comfort knowing I am not entirely alone in OCD-land. Good post!

Anonymous said...

I've been on Luvox for a long time 8 yrs and that's it. That and w/ the help of this excellent book, Hope and Help for your Nerves by Cliare Weeks, I've been able to understand that, it's my OCD, and the best way to deal w/ OCD is accept your thoughts and not fight them and let time pass.

To put it bluntly I am the ultimate "what if" thinker. No matter what crazy thought it was, I would realize I'm obsessing on something that is not true and while it would bug me, eventually go away when I leave it alone, I never really doubted my answers. For example, if I was obsessed on the thought "what if the only way to stop obssessing is chop off my hand, hurt someone, etc" I knew it was not true, and while scared that I might obsess on it, I was never really scared of the thought.

However, now I am suffering from major guilt which I believe is brought on by my OCD. A week 1/2 ago, felt guilty for being a typical "guy" (flirting type stuff-nothing else) and felt the need to apologize to my wife. So, I did and felt a bit better. Although, the next day I was still a tad upset, obsessing, and just down. So, I apologized again and then felt "off" about something. Then the thoughts came, "what if I just lied to my wife" "what if I really am not sorry" "what if I really don't love her", etc etc

It spiraled from there. Now, I've had my share of doubts/fears before, like right after we got married "what if I could be happier w/ somebody else, or wanted to break up" but I knew that I was happy w/ my wife and didn't want to break up". In the past, if I would harmlessly flirt or whatever, I would always say to myself, that's just being a guy, and I don't want to be w/ them. Heck, a week ago and none of this would've bothered me, but now I am doubting everything.

I'm asking the same questions I've always had but now I'm not accepting the answers. Then my OCD causes me to question everything and look for hidden meaning. "what if I never really loved my wife and have been living a lie" "what if I wanted the fairy-tale" etc etc. Now, I love my wife, but when I'm in this it is so hard to think or see things clearly.

Then it goes on to our kids which I hold sacred. "What if I stop loving them" or "don't feel it anymore" then I think well "what if I didn't really love my wife when they were conceived does that mean I can't love them now"" and the crazier and more upsetting it becomes.

So, my doc called in a tiny amount of Seroquel to help take the edge off, this drug really scares me, but I have been using it how I should, I see the doc tomorrow who can hopefully help me. Usually, I'm very good after 13 yrs of dealing w/ this at getting out of it, but now I'm scared of all these thoughts, and of course the fear is keeping me in it "what if I don't love my wife or what if I never did", etc etc Then I think what if all this obsessing is trying to tell me I'm not happy, etc etc.

All I know is a 1 week ago, I was happy, and loved my children more then life itself and felt it, now that I'm like this I'm not enjoying anything and questioning everything, if I was awake 24 hours, that's how long I'd be dealing w/ it.

The guilt is killing me because I'm afraid that "what if this is true" when in the past I never used to be afraid of the answers, I never questioned them.

If I had the thought after a fight w/ my spouse "what if I wanted to break up" I would just say, well that's not true, I love her and want to be married, or if I flirted w/ a girl and ask myself "what if I wanted to breakup" I'd say that's not true, doesn't mean I don't love my wife" and that would be that. What am I doing wrong? Why is this not going away?

To make the guilt even worse we have our 3rd boy coming in Aug, so I try even harder to get out of this which just makes it worse.

I feel trapped no matter what I do. If I do leave, I'd feel guilty for that and then would be thinking "what if I just made a huge mistake, what if I really did love my wife" etc etc. "

I just want to get back to enjoying my family.

Anonymous said...

I have tried for so long to find people who do this aswell! I used to have to write a letter to my mum every night to tell her exactly everything that I had done in that day that was 'wrong'. This covered everything from thoughts about doing something wrong to picking a flower (therefore killing it) and this lasted about a year untill I managed to force myself to stop (this hurt a LOT to stop).

But I've recently been feeling old feelings coming back with the guilt and lying, I don't know what to do, how to stop it.

Anonymous said...

This is all too familiar. Unfortunately there are things I've done in my childhood that I'm ashamed of. Now I keep thinking back to them over and over, worried that I may have caused irreparable hurt or damage to someone.

The only relief I get is by telling myself that "everything is temporary. suffering is temporary" (buddhism). This is the only way I've found to cope. By accepting that whatever damage I've done may have caused harm, but the harm is temporary.